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Michael Johnson
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 Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:21 pm Post subject: TOURNAMENTS |
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There are 8 categories to choose from on the KCA home page. Instead of 2 rows of 4 categories, could there be 3 rows of 3 categories? It would be nice if there were 2 tournament categories instead of one: Scholastic Tournaments and Open Tournaments.
It's just a convenience thing because it seems like there are a lot of tournaments listed these days. It's not an issue by any stretch of the imagination. I may be the only one, but I just thought that I'd throw it out there. Is this something worth considering?
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Terry_Vibbert
Joined: 09 Sep 2007
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Location: Evansville, IN
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| Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:40 pm Post subject: Re: TOURNAMENTS |
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| Michael Johnson wrote: | There are 8 categories to choose from on the KCA home page. Instead of 2 rows of 4 categories, could there be 3 rows of 3 categories? It would be nice if there were 2 tournament categories instead of one: Scholastic Tournaments and Open Tournaments.
It's just a convenience thing because it seems like there are a lot of tournaments listed these days. It's not an issue by any stretch of the imagination. I may be the only one, but I just thought that I'd throw it out there. Is this something worth considering? |
Well, the only problem I can foresee is that some events have both scholastic and non-scholastic sections, therefore the event has to be duplicated, one for each category. The other problem is that the organizer, or advertiser, will have to specify which category they want their event listed under. What should the webmaster do when he gets an event and it is not specified?
Other than that, I see no problem with it, why not run the idea by the KCA board? |
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Michael Johnson
Joined: 29 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:28 pm Post subject: Re: TOURNAMENTS |
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| Terry_Vibbert wrote: | | Well, the only problem I can foresee is that some events have both scholastic and non-scholastic sections, therefore the event has to be duplicated, one for each category. |
I thought about this. I'm not sure what the answer is other than to duplicate it like you said. It seems like the only one that has both scholastic and open is Evansville??? I may be wrong. I can't remember. I do know that I don't see duel categories often.
| Terry_Vibbert wrote: | | The other problem is that the organizer, or advertiser, will have to specify which category they want their event listed under. What should the webmaster do when he gets an event and it is not specified? |
It seems like if the webmaster wouldn't know, then I'm not sure visitors to the website would know either. If anything, it would be a good filter to make sure that visitors to the website understood what they were reading. I admit that sometimes I have to read very carefully when it doesn't say "scholastic" in the header. For example, "9th ANNUAL QUEEN CITY CLASSIC CHESS TOURNAMENT". People who are familiar with the tournament know, but it's not real clear that it's scholastic only or not. It has the word "Open" in the body of the details right after "K-12", but considering there is no other mention of it and there are no monetary prizes, I'm betting that it's scholastic only. So, I avoid a tournament if it's not clear. I would not like going to a tournament expecting it to be an open tournament only to find out once I traveled there that it was scholastic. From that stand point, the forced clarification could be a good thing.
| Terry_Vibbert wrote: | | Other than that, I see no problem with it, why not run the idea by the KCA board? |
I'm not sure if it is beneficial; if it adds value to the website; or if it helps make things better. From my point of view it would, but I'm only one person.
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JerryBaker
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| Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 12:12 am Post subject: |
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I understand this completely. This is why I opened my site and only track Adult tournaments.
I get quite a few emails wanting me to list scholastic only tourrnaments, but I get to refuse since I'm not affiliated with KCA officially. 
I have in the past listed chess camps in a separate area of my website, but otherwise I leave the scholastic information to someone else.
KCA website just really blows when there are so much better tools out there. It would require some work though and that takes time and effort that is really hard for volunteers. Thank goodness to the volunteers we do have.
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Eric Yussman
Joined: 26 Dec 2008
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| JerryBaker wrote: | | KCA website just really blows when there are so much better tools out there. It would require some work though and that takes time and effort that is really hard for volunteers. Thank goodness to the volunteers we do have. |
You make a great point (aside from the "website blows" assertion): we get what we pay for, and this website is volunteer work. On my own volition, I started this site in the mid-1990s with a Geocities account which, at that time, was the only free and easy means for amateurs like myself to create a website. The basic structure of that initial website is what you still see today. Not much has changed, except for the format of the message board.
The only money that I ever requested was for KCA to pay the $4 fee Geocities charged to remove those annoying pop-up windows from its site. Otherwise, no KCA money went toward the website.
I don't know if any KCA money goes to the website today but, if not, it really shouldn't make a difference. The site is fine as is. Spectacular? No. But, surely, someone in our group has the knowledge to whip these kinds of sites into shape if there is clamor to do so. No one asked me to create this site in the first instance. It was fun, I saw an opportunity to do something meaningful, and I just did it. Money wasn't part of it. |
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Michael Johnson
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The duel listing of tournaments split between scholastic and open tournaments is something that I'm hopeful will happen someday. I'm not sure that we are ready yet.
I knew Jerry's website listed tournaments, but I didn't really realize that it was just open tournaments. Also, I didn't realize the reason behind forming it. I'm perfectly comfortable with looking at the lexchess.com website for tournaments.
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JerryBaker
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| Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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This website was top of the line 15 years ago.
This website works for what we need today.
Is this website anywhere near the potential that it could be given today's web advances? No, and that was my point.
The problem is we do not have a volunteer, like Yussman, that has the time, technical savvy, and initiative to create a newer website. I am not complaining, because I'm one of those folks that shurks this responsibility.
I think we just have to live with the current limitations of this website and give a great thanks to our current volunteers for stepping up to the plate.
A quick question for any web folks out there. Is anyone familiar with the "Joomla" CMS?
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Stephen Dillard
Joined: 07 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 7:39 pm Post subject: One thing that might help |
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It would really help if the ads were shorter and extra information came by clicking. I do not know how to do any of this, but I think it would help to list tournament name, date, and contact on the main page.
I have been very pleased to see old events cleaned off more effectively than in the past. That helps too.
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